What if the fatigue you can't shake, the fog that won't lift isn't coming from your schedule at all, but from the sun itself and how well your body is actually receiving its energy? Today I'm joined by Ashley Grace, the marketing disruptor behind the world's first quantum wellness brand, to talk about the science and spirit of solar-derived healing. Welcome to Break Free from the Burnout. I'm your host, Dr. Anastasia Chopelas, physicist turned energy healer, and I'm here to help you make the quantum shifts to release the hidden blocks to your success. Welcome to the show, Ashley. I'm so excited to hear your story and ideas. Thanks for having me. It's great to meet you, and I'm looking forward to it as well. You spent years helping build the pharmaceutical advertising machine before turning toward quantum wellness. What was the moment or accumulation of moments that made you walk away from that world? Well, don't hold it against me. I am, trying to make amends. what really changed it for me is I had an accident, Many years ago. I've got a couple plates in my head here and screws holding it back together. I had years of nerve damage and nerve pain, and the pharmaceutical industry really couldn't help me because it was, incapacitating, the drugs that they were giving me. I couldn't work, I couldn't really participate in life, and do that. So I lived with nerve pain and, all kinds of stuff, migraine headaches, all kinds of things for many years. and I discovered CBD along my journey, and really changed my life, for the better. so then I decided I've got to get involved in this. the, the natural, more holistic approach was calling to me. it had helped me myself, and so I ended up volunteering in the industry. started doing some consulting projects, and then the team at Charlotte's Web approached me and asked me to come on as their founding chief marketing officer, and we built a tremendously powerful business in a couple years' time, sold the company, and, I was then consulting for many years in the natural health and wellness, space. And so that was really what got me from point A to point B. Wow. So the company you're with now is not CBD based, right? It, it's Igniton. It's built around ignitons, a solar origin energy particle. For the listeners never heard of that term, how do you explain what they are and how they interact with the human body? Yes. Igniton is the company that drew me out of the consulting space. I was getting bored with working, just in a this deep with all kinds of different brands. I really wanted to go, a lot deeper. I enjoy being a part of a team. I enjoy building things that don't exist, and, or are new to existing. And, the Igniton story, what got me was the data. So it sounds… We'll talk more about what Ignitons are, but, and it sounds a little bit like science fiction come true. but what really persuaded me to join was the university studies that have been published in three peer review journals that show that when we are able to harness this Igniton energy, which is in our atmosphere, it does come from the sun. they're neutral subatomic quasiparticles, which you probably understand as a physicist. I didn't understand that, and I'm still grasping it, as a non-physicist. but they're all around us all the time. We have, really advanced technology that allows us to harness that energy from the atmosphere and direct it into the hydrogen protons of supplement ingredients. And in essence, what we're doing is we're supercharging the supplement ingredients, and the, the studies that have been published in the peer review journals show that this process, actually makes the ingredients work better than the same exact ingredient formulation that does not have the Igniton quantum charge and better than a placebo. So- Wow… that's what, that's what the story is very rapidly since launching last year at the Dave Asprey biohacking event in 2025. Wow. Yeah, that's really interesting. So igniting the protons in hydrogen, which is all over the place in any organic compound And our bodies, we- we're 70% water, which is hydrogen, predominantly. And, we, what we know, and I'm very transparent with this in, in, in our marketing as we talk to customers about, our solutions, we know that Igniton charged ingredients work better than the same ingredients that don't have the charge. That's the, the science that we've done, and it's been published. what we don't know necessarily is why. we have a hypothesis that this, excited hydrogen, molecules in the compounds that we're charging, is either makes the compounds either more bioavailable in our body or amplifies their impact in our body, or some combination of both. But we don't have science that proves that. It just seems logical that since we are charging the hydrogen protons, that that's probably playing a role in this, given that hydrogen is so predominant in our bodies the way you talk about it, it's actually very similar to a process that I do energetically on people is I ignite their cells in some way, and I just imagine sunlight driving into their cells to help them reproduce in a healthy manner. Mm-hmm. And I liken it to, so you can think about it this way, when we start out as a fertilized embryo, we're just this tiny non-nothing, and within nine months we're seven to eight pounds, and then within the year, another year, we're 25 pounds. And, n- that fast, rapid growth has this light energy in it. It just like- Yeah … what I feel has this light energy in it, and it's healthy. So it's really interesting that you f- that this Igniton Igniton idea has really moved forward. So most supplements, you said most supplements fail. What actually goes wrong? Is it the formulation or is it this energetic thing? I think it may be a combination of both, right? these, a lot of times the, we are taking supplements, and they're not being absorbed into our body. Mm-hmm. And, that, I think, again, we don't, claim that our product is more bioavailable, because we don't have the data that says that's what's happening. Yeah. But w- we do claim that it works better because we do have the data that shows that. so I, I think a lot of times it's a combination, If the, if you're not using the right ingredients to begin with, then you're not gonna get the outcome, but if, especially not gonna get the outcome if those ingredients aren't actually getting to the right parts of your body, to deliver the benefit. Yeah. I, actually take something that changes the epigenetics of the cell to healthier, and it works pretty quickly. I noticed a dramatic difference. So there are some really magical supplements out there that work very well, and I'm wondering if he didn't do what you're doing, your company is doing on the supplements. So what differences do you see from people that have taken one kind of supplement that has supposedly the same ingredients to another? we see that statistically speaking, the ingredients that have the Igniton charge to them are significantly outperforming those same ingredients that don't. And in some cases, that's, two, three, four times as effective, as the non-charged version. Now, we focus our products on a few different, areas of health and wellness. So we have a product called the Igni Cognition that's focused on the brain- Mm-hmm… and speeding up, neuronal processing short-term memory, operational memory, processing speed, attention, and overall mental quality of performance. We also have another product that we call Igni Longevity And it is focused more on stress and inflammation biomarkers. chronic inflammation is one of our, great nemesis as the human race, especially in today's world with stress and anxiety and screens and poison in the water and the food and all kinds of stuff that we're dealing with. we're very inflamed as a species. And- Yes, we are… the, there's some biomarkers and inflammation that are really important to get monitored. One of them is IL-6 or interleukin-6. Another one is CRP. Mm-hmm. And another one is GGT. we've actually done the studies that show that our Igni Longevity, it lowers those stress and inflammation biomarkers statistically greater than the same formulation that doesn't have the charge and greater than placebo. And we're talking about a 37% decrease in IL-6, a 28% decrease in CRP, and a 13% decrease in GGT all over 30 days. So- So it's not just marginal, it's like gigantic changes. Radical improvements. Yeah. Which, w- one of the things that's interesting with the Igni Cognition product, people notice it, some people notice it within a couple hours. People that are energetically in tuned, like yourself, they take it and they notice right away that it's turning their brain on. and we always tell people, "Whatever you do, don't take it after lunch,"'cause y- a lot of times you can't shut your brain down, and so you wanna take the product in the morning. but it's very noticeable to some people within hours, but to most people within, days or a week. The Igni Longevity product is a little bit different because y- we don't really notice lower inflammation in our body a lot. We do if it's an acute inflammation where we've hurt ourselves and we have inflammation, inflamed from a sprained ankle or something like that, but chronic inflammation is different. We don't notice it when it's going away. What I like to tell people is it's more about what you notice is not present in your life. You notice maybe, "Hey, my, my shoulder feels better than it used to after a few weeks of taking it," or, "I can bend down and tie my shoes without having to grunt every time I do that," or, "I take the dogs around the block and I feel okay. I don't have as much, exhaustion or, tiredness that I may have had in the past." So it's really more about what you don't feel with that product. Yeah. And then we've got a couple of n- new products. one of them that I'm very excited about is called, Igni REM Sleep, and it is what it sounds like. there's a multitude of products that'll help you go to sleep, and s- unfortunately a lot of them keep you groggy and, they d- they sedate you or they knock you out. We don't do that. We're f- we're not focused on putting anybody to sleep. We're focused on what happens when you are asleep, and keeping you asleep, and keeping you in that deep REM state where your brain has a chance to recover. And we like to say our cognition product is more for, improving the brain during the day. It's the AM version. And our REM sleep product is more for improving your brain while you sleep. It's the PM version. but- Does it help you also stay asleep? Because that's my issue now. I'm in my almost mid-70s, and, I- I'll have mostly good night sleep. But, last night, I laid awake for two hours, and it wasn't because I was thinking about anything or… I just laid there and I just said, I don't really wanna get up," even though they say you should stand up before you sleep. But if I stand up, I wake myself up even more. Yeah. that's exactly what it does. it's putting you to sleep. we're seeing in our test results… And the beauty of this is an easy one. If you wear a sleep tracker, an Apple Watch or Fitbit or something like that- I do … you can test all of this stuff yourself. You don't have to take my word for it. So it's one of those interesting, self-diagnosing, products where we're seeing, in our testing that we did with the REM sleep, we found that, users had a 25% increase in the amount of RE- REMs time that they were, having while they were asleep. They had a 54% reduction in sleep interruptions. So being woken up in the middle of the night like you were just describing, and there was a 92%, decrease in morning weakness, which is really caused when you wake up in the morning and you just don't feel like getting out of bed. You feel still exhausted even though, you've apparently slept for eight, eight hours or more. You weren't in that REM sleep, so you're not getting recharged, and that, that- Also adrenal exhaustion. People that have adrenal exhaustion will also- That's right … wake up like that. Yes. That's right. And then the last thing I'll share is we've moved also into a skincare product. these first three products I talked about are capsules. They're internal, oral, supplements. We also have dipped our toes into the peptide market from a topical standpoint with a, what we call the Igni Peptide Eye Serum, and it's for use around your eyes. a lot of folks deal with dark circles or puffiness, the wrinkles that you typically get, and that's all that thin skin around your eyes. And our product in clinical testing showed, dramatic increases in hydration, a 52% increase in hydration, a, a 10% increase in elasticity, and a 30%, increase in, skin barrier function around the eyes. And, just tremendous feedback from customers. We just released the sleep product and the peptide product in the last, month or so. So these are brand new Oh, that's really exciting. And all those things, a lot of us women after we pass through menopause, for me it was late, I was 56, but still, those little lines really started, and the sagging chin really started- Yeah … to appear at that time. it went from… it wasn't like a gradual increase or decrease in flexibility. It went almost overnight. And then the sleep thing changed. So this addresses so many problems that… 'Cause I, work with a lot of women, and it addresses so many problems that they're having. And- Yeah … that's amazing that y- you've developed these products that h- make that big of a difference. It's not just like a little… It's not like here's the ocean, and you're just addressing the ripples. You're actually talking about the ocean. women's health is a big deal, and it often gets overlooked, It, it- Let's be honest. That's just- It does… unfortunately the way it is. but, issues, as you mentioned with menopause, they begin with perimenopause. A lot of times it's postpartum even. So I, we have a lot of customers who are in their 30s, and they're dealing with brain fog from after having a child. yeah. hair loss, thyroid issues. I went through all of them- Yep … which is why I got into healing in the first place. I had giant tumors. I, I went through everything, high blood pressure, and And all of that also contributes to the spikes in your inflammation through the process- Yes … as well, right? and then s- trouble sleeping, and then your eyes are tired. So really all of our products are… we have a lot of male customers as well, but i- it's very much a, a f- a focus around women's health and what we can do. the world is always-… better if we have, happy, healthy women Yeah, if my husband is any indication, he'll do what he needs to do to take care of his health, but he doesn't do it until it's, smacking him in the face. that's the thing. a lot of this stuff now we're, we're operating in this biohacking community quite a bit, and that's where people are starting to realize that there's ways, if you can st- it's easier to stay young than it is to get young. Yeah. and if you can start taking care of yourself, earlier in life, you're gonna be in a better place. And, we always also tell people this is not something that's designed to be a miracle capsule by itself, right? You need to start by, taking care of your mind through either prayer or meditation. taking care of your, your diet, your body through diet and through movement and exercise. And then once you're doing those things, then you can start thinking about supplementation. But we always like to tell people, it, there are cases where people say,"Hey, I haven't changed anything else. I took some Igniton, all of a sudden everything's better." And that does happen sometimes, but it's far more effective for people that are making it part of an overall, wellness protocol. Yeah, I do, I say the same thing about healing because it's very similar, that if you don't do all of the foundational steps, then the healing isn't going to give you as much as if you were to start changing your daily habits. that's right. My healer, he worked with me quite a bit. We all have, and you probably understand this from the work that you've done, but most of us have some kind of weak spot. certain parts of the bodies. like for me, my thyroid has often been part of the problem area, and in particular, my liver. The thyroid's a little bit more difficult to take care of. there's things that you can take supplements-wise. But, my, my healer was like, "Hey, if you're gonna keep drinking, I'm gonna quit working on you because it just doesn't… You're not doing yourself any good if, as soon as I leave, you're gonna start drinking alcohol, and, you're gonna ruin all the progress- it does- … and the reset that I just did on your liver." Yeah. actually, alcohol will reverse brain healing really quickly. I'll do a full brain healing, and they'll go, "Oh, I'm so awake." And then they go out and party that night, and it reverses everything. Yeah… inflammation, like I have good Like one thing-… if I eat one thing wrong, I'll feel it in one joint on my finger, and I'm going, "Okay, that's out." I will, I'll make a note to connect with you and send you, a bottle of our cognition product to try after this because since you're so sensitive. I, tell you this story. We… I had a, interestingly enough, she was also a physicist, and, Dr. Theresa Bullard, I don't know if you know that name, I do know her. Dr. Bullard was interested in trying our Igniton product, and she lives in the UK. And she said, rather than sending it here, why don't you send it to my parents? And so I did that, and she didn't tell her mom that she was gonna be getting a package. And so her mom, she tells me this later, her mom calls her and says, "You got a package here today, and I don't know what it is, but it must be really powerful because I got shocked when I went to pick it up off the porch." she said her mom is very energetically sensitive. and she got a spark from it when she picked it up. it'll be interesting if you have a similar reaction when you feel our product for the first time. Yeah. I can usually pick something up and tell you whether it's okay or not. I'm, I'm so sensitive. I have to read every ingredient inside a supplement, and if it contains a rice filler-… it'll start hurting me immediately. That's the other thing is we, our founder is very adamant. We have only active ingredients in our products. There are no fillers of any type or any excipients, which makes our products… the quantum charging process is quite expensive in and of itself. but the fact that we don't use fillers or excipients makes it even more expensive to produce. And the reason is, fillers and excipients are designed to add weight and density to the powder so that it falls into the capsules when the machines are running. And so it's really designed to benefit the machinery, not the person's body. And so he's like, "If it doesn't benefit the body, we're not putting it in our products," which makes sense to me. As a marketing person, that's fantastic. but to our operations people, it drives them nuts because it's, basically it takes about four to five times longer to create a capsule. Once we do all the process and we get it all charged and all that, which also takes longer, but then it's four or five times longer to fill our capsules because we have to do it very slowly and patiently because the product doesn't fall into the capsules, very easily. that's absolutely fascinating. I didn't know that's what the fillers were for. I just thought they wanted it to make it look bigger so you thought you were getting more. No. they, some may do it for that reason, too, but it's primarily for the operational benefit, to, provide density to, and volume to the powder combination so it falls in y- with gravity easier. So there's a phrase you use,"The science and spirituality of solar-derived healing." Where do you draw the line, if any, between the two? Or do you see them as the same thing wearing different clothes? It's a good question. I, I say all the time that you can't have a quantum conversation without having a spiritual conversation, and that's really where the line is. And it's, maybe a line is the wrong use of words because it's really, when you get into quantum, you're talking about a unified field that we're all connected to. And, there's lots of evidence of that in our lives. If you've ever had moments of synchronicity or, things where your hair on the, on your arms or your back of your neck stands up and something happens and you're like, "Phew, man, I'm glad I didn't do that." all those types of things happen to us, and we recognize them, but most of us just go on with our lives and forget about that. And don't think about it. Yeah. They don't think about it. We don't think about it. Yeah. But all of that is a quantum experience. And if there's a unified field that connects us all to each other and to all things, then that just means there's a spiritual connection that created that. There's no way to get around that conversation. it doesn't mean that one religion is right and another's wrong. I think religion has done the greatest harm to this conversation, because it pits people against each other and divides people when the reality is, from a quantum standpoint, we're all connected and we're all one. and whether you wanna call that God or spirit or source or what you may call it, there's some founding energetic, frequency that exists that, links us all together. being a quantum charged company, we have to recognize that the spirit is part of that. Yes, absolutely. The quantum field is actually what defines us in this physical space. And, all the information is there. So I call that the information space, and this is the physical space. But yes. Which is what you're doing with your energy healing. You're dealing in frequency, and that's- That's right … in essence, that's what we're doing with Ignitons as well. It's, it's- You're, you're- … it's a little bit outside-… pumping pumping the frequency of why Teresa Bullard's mother felt a shock, because the frequency was so high that when she- Mm-hmm reached to pick it up, it gave her a bit of a jolt. Yep. Yep. And my, my energy healer does a lot of muscle testing with our family, and with himself even. And when I first got involved in this, he tested it and he was like, the strongest result from the muscle testing that I've ever seen." it was quite persuasive to him from that perspective. Yeah. everything that is around us, thoughts, emotions, words, people, food, all have a frequency. I call it the characteristic frequency, which is actually a physics term. Characteristic frequency is what you radiate out primarily. and by optimizing your whole life around what has the highest vibe, because people, when they are healthiest, vibrate at the highest frequency, and that's been measured. I'll share with you, that's a good, that's a good reminder of a story that I, would tell quite often when I'm in interviews like this. our products are obviously exciting for memory and cognition, lower stress and inflammation, better sleep, better appearance around the eyes. That's all the scientific studied results, and it's quite compelling. I encourage people to take a look at our website. You can read all the studies there. But what's more difficult to study is the impact that Ignitons have on your overall consciousness. And I always give this example, and since you're talking about this, the vibrations that we offer. you always can tell when somebody walks into a room if their vibration is high or if their vibration is… you… There… Someone comes in the room, and you- people say, "Oh, they took the air out of the room," right? that's because their vibration was very low. Or, "Wow, it just felt great when so-and-so came into the room," and that's because their vibration was high. over the holidays, I, we, family get-togethers and things like that, after three or four days, sometimes things can get a little combative with families. and I came into a, into my house and, started having a conversation with my wife and my son, and another family member was there and was listening to what I was saying, and, she didn't like what she was hearing, and she decided to make some very nasty comment to me. and my normal, response over the years had been to lower my vibration and get into an argument with this person when they do things like this, and then it ends up everybody gets upset, I take the air out of the room, and everybody remembers what a jerk I was, and nobody ever remembers that I was baited into this conversation, right? however, this year, when this was said, I literally had this snap moment in time where I turned my head, 'cause she was over my shoulder. I'm talking to the people in front of me, and she says what she said, and I snapped my head like this to turn, and I was just about to let her have it. And as I'm, literally in that nanosecond of time, I almost came out of my body, and I, heard a voice, I assumed it was my own voice, saying, "Now's your chance. How do you want to respond?" all of this happens in this split second, and I just smiled at her, and I turned back around and I went back to my conversation. And my wife later was like, "Oh my gosh, I've been waiting for you to respond that way for years. You finally did it. How did you do it?" My son was like, "Dad, I'm so proud of you. you didn't ruin the night for everybody when so and so, said something mean to you." and I, can only attribute this… Now, I, the only difference… Now granted, I've been meditating for years, I've been working on this, trying to be a better person, f- so there's all of that's been happening, but this was so dramatic of an experience, and unique of an experience. I was about six months into my Igniton consumption at that time, and I've since told my founder about this, and other people. I've told this story many times. and he said, "Yeah, that's the classic example of the Igniton buildup in your body is making you resonate at a higher level of consciousness, and you can choose how you want to respond to certain things so that you can ch- select how you want to have your reality be." in essence, I chose, not just for my reality, but everybody in that room, I was able to change the reality for all of us, and it was a, just an amazing experience. But, that's harder to test in a laboratory and get in a peer-reviewed study, but it's very real part of what Ignitons bring to the equation in terms of other benefits from taking our products. Yeah. I, know exactly what you're talking about. I just don't like other people controlling how I feel. It's like a quantum jump from here was your behavior before to here it is now, where you can just think to yourself, "Oh, thank you for your feedback," and move on. Yeah, and ultimately it's us. If we let other people do that to us, it's our fault, right? It's how we have- Yeah … chosen to respond. and, it ultimately comes down to what you just said, a desire to make a different choice or a better choice. Yeah. also accepting the certain realities. I've had other experiences in the last, few months where, again, I've encountered people that have been difficult, in certain situations that- Still, it's hard, I, not saying I'm perfect at it because I'm not. But more times than not, I'm able to accept the situation that this other person is putting me in, as opposed to getting upset about it and letting it lower my vibration and be impacted and then change all my energy. I'm able to more accept it and be like,"Okay, if that's how you wanna respond to this, then that's your choice. I'll make do with that and figure it out." Yeah, I always say that their opinion of me is none of my business. Yeah. A good one. Yeah, I just wanna touch on burnout for a moment. It says, "Burnout shows up as exhaustion, but you're pointing to something happening at the cellular or energetic level long before someone feels tired." Walk us through that. What's actually depleting first? I'm not a, I'm not a medical doctor or even, any type of scientist, so I don't wanna comment on exactly what's happening in the cells. but at some level, the inflammation response is leading us to have less energy. because our body is spending time fighting itself, fighting off that inflammation, it's depleting us of our own energy, to basically live life to our fullest, and to be able to choose healthier choices, and to make positive choices i- in dealing with other people, to, deal with having gratitude in the face of stress and anxiety, right? That's what causes burnout traditionally is, people just are overwhelmed with the stresses of their life. I'm not exactly sure what's happening at the cellular level there, at least not in a scientific way. But the reality is when our body is spending time trying to keep that inflammation under control, it's using up some of that very vital energy that we could be using for other, more productive, outcomes in in our lives Yeah. For me, it's like a, a trifecta of the thyroid, the liver… not just the mitochondria, Oh, and the adrenal glands. So it's adrenal glands, the liver, and the thyroid, and when one starts to falter, then the other two try to make up for it, and then the next one burns out, and then the next one burns out, and we have a third of the people in this country are suffering from adrenal insufficiency, and another third are on their way there. And- what I can comment on, 'cause I've done some of the research on this, is I do know that our mitochondria use NAD+ as- Yes … part of the process of creating that ATP energy. Yes. And NAD+ unfortunately starts to deplete from our bodies naturally by the age of… It's about 25 is when it starts. By the age of 50, we've lost half of our NAD+. And a lot of times people say, I'll just take NAD+. That'll help me supplement that." Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way because NAD+ doesn't get absorbed into the body very well. And so you take NAD+, but you're basically just passing it right through your body. Igniton's products are… All the ingredients in both our longevity and our cognition product are designed to support healthy mitochondria, and many of them are specifically associated with being a natural support for NAD+ to maintain it or to regenerate it or to make new NAD+ in our bodies, which is the healthy way that we can respond to this. So from an burnout and energetic perspective, that is some of the science behind what we're doing that relates a little bit to your question. Yeah, so do women over the age of 50 notice that they can lose weight more easily or? we've had some folks write in that they've lost weight without even trying. We don't make that claim. We haven't studied that, but that's definitely a common theme that, we're seeing. And I've actually noticed that even in just some of the people that I love that are taking it. and I don't know if, I don't know if it's because of a combination of factors, if it's suppressing appetite at some level perhaps because it does… One of the products has berberine in it and which is known to do that. but it's also just, creating a better healthy environment for your bodies where then natural, weight loss happens. also cortisol spikes, right? That's another problem that happens from sleep. if you're not sleeping well, you're not getting that, balance to the cortisol. some of that's involved in weight loss as well. Yeah, that's the thing that… So I go through cycles of gaining a little weight and losing a little weight with no obvious things except I notice that if when I sleep better it comes down. So if someone listening is doing everything right, eating well, sleeping, working out, but still feels like they're running on empty, what's the first thing that you'd ask them to look at that they're probably not considering? I- ultimately it comes down to the stress, I think, in that situation. If you're doing all the other things right, there's probably some stress in your life that you're not necessarily dealing with. And, unfortunately I don't know that I have a great answer for how to deal with that because oftentimes stress is, a, a result of our jobs or our family or, some of those types of situations which, what are you gonna do? You have to work, and you've got your family who is who your family is in a lot of situations. But, I think from a, a calming standpoint in that situation, I would often recommend some form of meditation or prayer or whatever- Mm-hmm … fits your personal lifestyle. really focusing on gratitude, and that's what's really helped me with stress in my life, and I've talked to many other people who've said,"Yeah, that's really worked for me as well," and it's, comes up quite a bit. but if you can find time, even five or 10 minutes… I try to do it before I get out of bed and when I go to bed, and just s- say thank you for the blessings that I'm grateful for, and really try to breathe slowly when I do that. there's a lot of, science around, you know, slow rhythmic breathing, and that combined with focusing on your blessings and things that you're really grateful for, I would say would be where I would recommend anybody that seems to be doing all the right things but is still struggling, because chances are it's gonna come back to being some form of stress that maybe you're not even that conscious of. but it's there in your life, and the antidote to that is gratitude. Yes. I agree. Gratitude really changed my life. Yeah. I've been through a lot, and when you look at what was the silver lining in all of the tragedy and all of the difficulty- And being grateful. So if you focus on the good things you get out of something, then it changes perspective dramatically, and it actually relieves the stress. Instead of saying, "I'm damaged," you just say, "I'm blessed." That's right. Yeah. And even taking that one step further, I think we've all had situations where… if you just take your attitude and shift it just a little bit, it's amazing what that does for the reality that you're living. Oh, absolutely. where do people find your products? So we're available on igniton.com, which is I-G-N-I-T-O-N.com. It looks like ignition, but… And sometimes the, the browsers, Google, will c- correct it to be ignition, so you gotta make sure you're typing in and getting rid of that last I in the letter. but it's igniton.com. And we're also available on the Gaia marketplace. we're not on Amazon. We're not in any big box retailer. igniton.com is the best place to go right now. Mm-hmm. That's wonderful. I'll make sure that this is in the show notes so they know not to put the last I in. I, Sometimes I say without the third I, but I don't wanna say that because the third I is a good thing. The last I is better. That's right. So if today's conversation reminded you that your exhaustion might be energetic before it's ever physical, you're exactly where you're meant to be, and go reclaim what's yours. Thank you, Ashley, for this wonderful conversation and showing that even burnout has a frequency we can shift. Thank you, Dr. Anastasia. Yeah. Totally wonderful conversation. it was totally fun. Great. I enjoyed it. Okay, wonderful. So- Thank you for joining us on Break Free From the Burnout. Did today's program resonate with you? 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